Monday, November 7, 2005

David Suzuki talks trash in London Ontario

Today David Suzuki was scheduled to lecture the students of Central high school on the evils of progress. Apparently, he also has some words of wisdom about garbage:

A proposal to dump Toronto garbage in London if Michigan shuts its border to mega-city trash is "the dumbest thing" environmentalist David Suzuki says he's ever heard.

"That is really stupid," he said from his Toronto office.

And the former Londoner, a renowned scientist and broadcaster, also took a swipe at London's looming four-bag trash limit that takes effect Jan. 1, calling it "outrageous."

"We have a family of four that produces less than one bag of garbage a month," Suzuki said.

[..] "We're going the wrong way. I see the world that my grandchildren are growing up in and it's nothing like the world I grew up in as a boy," he said last week.

"That's not supposed to happen. You're supposed to pass on the world the way you received it from your grandparents and we're not doing that."
The standard of living that has been achieved through decades of creative ideas and hard work should be reduced. All citizens must adhere to the mystical calculations of social garbage guru, David Suzuki. The Suzuki standard is the right one, because all other standards are "just stupid".
"Holy cow. It's outrageous to allow a family four bags free. I think every bag ought to be paid for, but it ought to be prorated, so that the first bag is fairly cheap and each successive one gets more and more (expensive)."

He also decries London's spreading suburbs and "gigantic homes," saying cities need vibrant neighbourhoods that give a "sense of identity and the sense that you want to do things to make it a better place."
Actually, garbage pickup is not 'free' Comrade Suzuki - it is one of the few practical services that are paid for through excessive taxation. Of course, we are forced to fund the city waste removal racket, even though we recognize that good garbage collection service is not one that is managed on the basis of nonsensical bureaucratic calculations concerning the acceptable amount of trash allowed per household.

Soon citizens will be forced by law to recycle all approved materials, to separate their tampons from their tissues, and to compost their kitchen scraps at a greater cost for less service. When a service provider is assured of business no matter how incompetent the business is run, it doesn't matter about the value you get from your dollar, but only that the trough keepers and theorizers are kept happy.
He also decries London's spreading suburbs and "gigantic homes," saying cities need vibrant neighbourhoods that give a "sense of identity and the sense that you want to do things to make it a better place."

SUVs should be banned from cities and free transit in core areas should replace use of private vehicles, he said.
Publically funded cattle cars will ensure the people are promptly and efficiently transported between their public housing cubicle and place of work.
"Everything you do has repercussions. We've come to a point where we think, 'Well, if I make money, then once I get the money I have the right to spend it any way I want," he said.
The looter has spoken.

In honour of Comrade Suzuki's visit, I will save a tree - I promise to never buy the London Free Press nor any of Suzuki's publications.


Jason Koulouras said...

I do not see what is wrong with recycling as much as possible and separating your garbage into streams that can be dealt with more easily and with less adverse impact to the environment


Anonymous said...

It ain't "the environment" where trash is dumped, it's somebody's property. If I pay them enough, and if they are not polluting or otherwise spoiling their neighbours' property, then it is none of your business.

As for Suzuki ... a renowned broadcaster, I suppose - among the what, maybe 100,000 or so CBC documentary viewers out there (I'm being generous because last time I checked, not a single news, comedy or dramatic CBC show even cracked the top 25 shows in Canada). But a renowned scientist? On what planet?

Lisa Turner said...


I do not see what is wrong with offering (recycling) unwanted items to willing recipients.

I do, however, have a problem with state regulated conservation programs that benefit socially approved engineers specializing in force.

"More easily" and "with less adverse impact" according to whom and on the basis of what authority?

Sky Captain said...

I don't like Suzuki.
Much prefer Triumph or even Honda.

Anonymous said...

How did David Suzuki get to London? Did he drive his huge gas-guzzling SUV?

Shawn Roske said...

Lisa, what are some of your solutions to environmental problems? Do they differ from Suzuki's?

Lisa Turner said...


What environmental problems in particular are you referring to?

As for Suzuki, I find I never agree with any of his solutions, because I don't agree with his environmental diagnosis in the first place. David Suzuki is a socialist and more harm than good is done to the environment under totalitarian rule than in more capitalistic societies.

Nick said...


What makes you think the state should clean up any old mess you see fit to leave at the curb? The contract between you and the state has changed. Previously the nanny state would clean up any mess left at the curb; now the contract is different. It's that simple

Lisa Turner said...

"What makes you think the state should clean up any old mess you see fit to leave at the curb?"

Nothing. Given a choice, I would hire a private contractor each time. I expect to pay for the waste I make, which isn't much by the way, but that is between me and my service provider.

Anonymous said...

People on this website need to get a clue. David Suzuki is doing more for this country and the environment than our own Prime Minister. I went to see David Suzuki when he was last in London at the Grand Theatre and I could not believe that he isn't more popular by now.

Where do you people get off thinking that not recycling and not saving the environment will get us somewhere? The last time I checked we are screwing ourselves slowly by not keeping our own natural resources in a state of renewal. It seems to me that many people over 40 years old don't care that after they die, their children and grandchildren will have to live in a world that no one tried to protect. I respect David Suzuki for what he is trying to do, at least he thinks about consequences of our actions in a global perspective, rather than coming on here and bitching about irrelevant issues.

We should not be allowed to throw so much garbage away. Recycling should be mandatory and people should be fined if they are too lazy to seperate their garbage. I live in a household of 2 people and we manage to recycle 4 large recyclingbags a month or more. How about the rest of you? Do you even try, or do you just complain without a though in your brain?

Anonymous said...

As a U.S. resident, it's depressing to see some Canadians engaging in the same simple minded rhetoric that is so common in the States. Throwing around words like "comrade" to demean people endorsing mandatory recycling measures betrays an Ayn Rand induced myopia, and a complete ignorance of the vileness of Soviet era Communism. If that's your idea of "reason" you really should move down here, because you'd have loads of selfish ignoramuses to reinforce your claptrap for you.

anonymous said...

I realize this is a pretty old thread, ha. But reguardless; I completely agree with the last two comments. I actually just stumbled across this while at work because I was trying to find information about the recycling program in London.

Needless to say, I've yet to find any actual information,as far as pick ups/etc. But, all I know is that I have worked at two businesses in London, one is a major chain, and we have no source of recycling. I am not one hundred percent sure why, but I know my previous boss told me that our business on Dundas st. could not recycle because there IS no recycling downtown. What is that about?? Why would you NOT allow the busiest section of the city with plenty of business compiling mass amounts of recyclable materials just to be thrown in the trash. I thought it was ridiculous then, but didn't think much of it until I began working at a major chain store on Richmond. Now I am simply appalled by the fact that we are tearing up TONS of boxes to be thrown out rather than recycled.

I am still young, only 19, and I too, would love to see my children and grandchildren with a half-decent world, and to live without things like asthma and random allergies and all the crazy stuff that's began to be 'normal' in the last 20-40 years.