Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Blame it on Global Warming

While the fires continue to burn up thousands of homes and livelihoods in California, the disaster is already being used by some to promote their political agendas. HT: Drudge:

Officials said Tuesday the winds and high temperatures are expected to continue. But when the fires do stop, lawmakers likely will debate the cause of the fire.

“One reason why we have the fires in California is global warming,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday, stressing the need to pass the Democrats’ comprehensive energy package.
Does global warming cause arson too?

Let's consult some wealthy celebrities for a potential answer to California's woes. HT: The Former Mayor of Mitchieville:
Comedian George Carlin and actress Jamie Lee Curtis this week both suggested that the devastating wildfires raging in Southern California should not come as a surprise to a population that ravages the environment.

Offering his provocative opinion on The View Wednesday morning, Carlin paraphrased an old comedy rant of his, and characterized the fires as cosmic payback from a planet stretched to its breaking point.

"People are selfish," he said. "These people with the fires and the floods and everything, they overbuild and they put nature to the test, and they get what's coming to them, that's what I say."

[..]"People think nature is outside of them. They don't take into [themselves] the idea that nature is a part of them." Pointing to his chest, he said, "Nature is in here, and if you're in tune with it, like the Indians – the balance of life, the harmony of nature – if you understand that, you don't overbuild, you don't do all this moron stuff."
cp: Dust My Broom

17 comments:

Elaine said...

hmmmmmm, I heard the preacher man say it was god who was causing the fires. Payback to California for their Sodom and Gomorrah like behaviour.

Who to believe.

marginalizedactiondinosaur said...

I'll worry about global warming when I don't freeze my butt off each winter. Oh no the 1-3 a degree rise will mean on days where its -39 it will only be -36 the horror. PS al gore is lying there will be lots of ice if it's -36.

Or when sea levels actually rise.

mariposa said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

The glowtards open their mouths just long enough to change feet.

rhebner said...

George Carlin is still alive?

eng said...

I'll worry about global warming when I don't freeze my butt off each winter

No worries for you, fat ass.

Lisa said...

Eng;

How do you know what size dinosaur's ass is?

mariposa said...

No comment from eng on the actual topic of this post - that GW enthusiasts will blame everything on global warming, even when they don't know what the f*** their talking about.

mariposa said...

How big are the carbon footprints of George Carlin, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Al Gore?

If they'd practise what they preach, I might be inclined to care what they have to say.

Comparison of two carbon footprints:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

Check out this:
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21352917-5001031,00.html

See the part about an Australian show earlier this year - National Carbon Test - hosted by actress Toni Collette (The Sixth Sense, Little Miss Sunshine)

"In fact, Toni flies so often that the final tally of celeb outputs had the earnest actress as second-worst carbon offender – a little embarrassing considering Toni provided the show's gasp-making signature tune ("Look out, look out, the sky is falling" – I kid you not)."

Only a fool would listen to such idiots tell them to reduce their carbon footprints.

eng said...

How do you know what size dinosaur's ass is?

I don't. I assume it is well insulated so a warmer climate would not be noticed as quickly as one with standard padding.

No comment from eng on the actual topic of this post

I am disgusted that people are trying to make political hay out of a disaster when it is still an emergency in progress.

eng said...

How big are the carbon footprints of George Carlin, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Al Gore?

Who cares? If they wore hair shirts you would complain they are out of touch and want everyone to live in mud huts. Just like you do now.

Your fantastic claims as to what they want would simply be tailored to match whatever their personal circumstances are. That is why these are called "ad hominem" attacks. You just pick something and attack it, since you are increasingly unable to attack or refute the message they are trying to spread, despite your attempts at shouting them down.

Interesting the story on GWB's house. He knows the oil will run out, or at least the infrastructure to extract, refine and distribute it will eventually be destroyed. He knows he will need a completely self sufficient home. All he needs is a private army to survive in the Mad Max world he foresees. That's why he's buying a bunch of land in a mountainous area of Paraguay.

marginalizedactiondinosaur said...

No worries for you, fat ass.


And like Al Gore you don't have any actual Data to back up your remarks eh. It's too soon to judge unless you can blame George Bush eh.

Here's more for you, yeah you, person with the anal fixation,

A lack of hurricanes is causing US droughts which are contributing to forest fires, take that AIT Eng,



And yes I will freeze my butt off I live in Winnipeg and we have yet to see global warming. We spent 3 months below normal last winter. Is blow normal what we have to face with global warming anal fixated one?

And the polar bears are growing in number thats why Chretien let people hunt them.

Al Gore spent 30k on electricity because he's just whining about the planet to sell snake oil. Why haven't the Ice core records in AIT been made public eh?

eng said...

And like Al Gore you don't have any actual Data to back up your remarks eh.

Al Gore does have data. I am not Al Gore. I made a guess as to your ass size, and it seems to be accurate given the fuss you are now making. You are the one who started talking about your ass. "anal fixation" indeed!

It's too soon to judge unless you can blame George Bush eh.

Standard fright wing droning. George Bush was presented as having an energy efficient home. You have a problem with that? Though it sounds more like a survivalist's home, but the builder did a good job.

Here's more for you, yeah you, person with the anal fixation,

No I am no longer beating my wife. You started talking about your ass, ass.

A lack of hurricanes is causing US droughts which are contributing to forest fires, take that AIT Eng,

You'll have to provide a link to someplace other than your personal website, chum. I'm not going.

And yes I will freeze my butt off I live in Winnipeg and we have yet to see global warming. We spent 3 months below normal last winter. Is blow normal what we have to face with global warming anal fixated one?

How do you ever deal with your personal finances? On one day you work all day and get nothing. That happens 4 days in a row, then you get a bunch of money all at once. Do you just spend it, assuming the same thing will happen the next day? Hopefully not, you calculate the average and budget so your average daily spending is less than your average daily income.

Climate change is concerned with average temperatures. When average temperatures change, the air movement patterns can change so it could cause local increases or decreases. You know about the jet stream, right? If it was affected, you will be colder in winter if it stays south of you. Yet the global average could be rising.

And the polar bears are growing in number thats why Chretien let people hunt them.

Chretien has been out of power for 4 years. We are seeing more bears in some areas because they are losing their habitat, and due to conservation. But they are declining overall.

Al Gore spent 30k on electricity because he's just whining about the planet to sell snake oil.

Some of that money went to pay for renewable power, for which you pay a premium.

What would be an acceptable hydro bill to you? How many dollars should Al Gore be allowed to spend on electricity, so that you would not try to make a talking point out of it.

I think even if he was off grid, you would do ad hominem attacks on that, in an attempt to discredit what he says.


Why haven't the Ice core records in AIT been made public eh?

I don't know. I haven't heard that talking point. You'll have to elaborate.

Elaine said...

...let's put it in a way that eng can understand.

eng, it is like Jimmy Swaggart, the preacher, or Jim Jones (another great social activist), Jim Bakker. You know how they told everyone they were going to die, and burn in hell, if they didn't send them money...and repent. The money thing wasn't even in the fine print.

They then go and do enough sinning for 100 people. They took those suckers sins and absolved them, for a price. They had taken on so many sins, for a price, that it turned them into sinners.

I don't know if it has something to do with the name Jim... I suppose there is a University out there somewhere researching that.

You get my drift. They were all shysters, just as your global warming prophets are shysters.

They take a make belief fear, or phobia, and turn it into gold.

Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.

basil said...

I wish the climate would stop changing. I liked it better in the old days when we didn't have climate change and God's creation simply worked the way he planned. Nothing changed because there was no need for his creatures to adapt to new environments because there were none! Jet streams always flowed the same way, we had the same number of raging storms each year - one or two - just to show God's humble creatures the power of his creation and to remind them to keep their carbon footprint to a minimum (back in those days no one ever died as a result and the young innocents of Eden had no material possession to be destroyed), and the temperature was always the same on December first or August second, each year, year round. You know, there was a time before climate change when leaders were ordained by God.
Al Gore is a nice man if not profoundly brilliant man who makes awesome movies - why don't people trust politicians anymore?
(It is obvious that the dinosaurs were Satanists and incurred His wrath before the age of innocence was restored in Eden which is why nature wiped them out - pre-fire humans=carbon neutral).

Lisa said...

You just pick something and attack it, since you are increasingly unable to attack or refute the message they are trying to spread, despite your attempts at shouting them down.

Eng


Eng demonstrates ad hominem attacks by estimating the size of a butt he fantasizes about.

I made a guess as to your ass size, and it seems to be accurate given the fuss you are now making.

mariposa said...

"A convenient fraud now being exposed"

Be aware that a judge this month instructed British teachers showing the film to tell their pupils that Gore makes at least 11 false or unsupported claims.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22559777-25717,00.html

I had to post just a few of the 11 false claims that Gore makes:

Gore suggests ice-core evidence shows rising CO2 caused temperature rises, which ended the past seven ice ages. In fact, the CO2 rises followed temperature rises by 800 to 2000 years.

Gore claims global warming could stop the Gulf Stream, causing an ice age in Europe. Recent studies deny it.

Gore claims rising seas have forced people to flee Pacific islands to New Zealand. There is no record of any such warming-caused evacuation.


Andrew Bolt
"I don't know why the court stopped at just 11. Hyperbole overload? But this must be enough to make rational viewers sceptical of all Gore's case."

marginalizedactiondinosaur said...

Neither my data on hurricanes or sea levels is located on "my site." They are both on GOVERNMENT sites that I admit I use as a source for my spin. However one is Canadian one American GOVERNMENT.

You say AL Gore has data but thats the problem I can say I have three buttocks but if I don't show anyone should gazillions of tax dollars be spent because it's too hot for anyone to live south of Winnipeg,


Why haven't the Ice core records in AIT been made public eh?

For example, Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth shows a Hockey Stick made from Lonnie Thompson’s ice core data. So let’s consider that as a type case. Readers of this site are aware that “grey” versions of Thompson’s data are inconsistent, that Thompson has grudgingly archived only a few cursory summaries (which are themselves often inconsistent) and that Thompson has refused to archive original sample data, a refusal that has been acquiesced in by the NSF, National Academy of Sciences and by Sciencemag. This would be an easy case to investigate how NSF policies worked when the rubber hit the road. Here’s what GASO said:

FYI thats also on my blog,