Monday, July 10, 2006

Uprising in Tavistock Ontario

In Tavistock, some shoppers are demanding their "right" to rations shop:

Food giant Sobeys is closing Tavistock's only grocery store, despite local political efforts to stop it.

"The prospects don't look good," Dave Oliphant, a local civic politician, said last week.

[..] The store first opened in the mid-1980s as a Knechtels and for a while was one of three grocery stores in Tavistock.

"Then there were two and then it needled down to one," said Oliphant, noting Tavistock once also had five gas stations. Now only two remain.
Earlier today, Norman Normative contacted the London Fog:
Comrades! We must demand our overseers enlist the aid of the army in the fight against Sobeys. Small communities like our own resisted the opening of Sobeys in the first place, but now that our purchasing preferences have driven all of the small grocers out of business, Sobeys has become a necessity to the local residents. The capitalist pigs must be surrounded and forced to remain in business, even if that means they operate at a loss or at worst, break even or even worse, make a small profit. Evil coporations like Sobeys only care about money and give not a thought to their workers who will be unemployed in a few weeks time in Tavistock. Such selfish businesses should be forced to provide for the welfare of the people, especially considering they corrupted us by opening their store in our community. Here's hoping John Clarke and his merry band of insurgents continue to rob grocery stores in protest.

24 comments:

Honey Pot said...

Now there might be a chance for a good immigration policy. Have immigrants agree to move to little towns such as Tavistock and sit up shop. It is apparent Tavistock needs business and people to survive. The Tavistockians should be be lobbying the global community to seek help in making a go of their town.

The Mayor said...

Rarely has an issue so divided my mind.

Surely The People have the right to social engineering and to force all and sundry to do their bidding. Sobey's should be forced to stay, to suffer loss of wealth and reputation, because The People say so. It would set a good example for the others, yes?

On the other hand, Large Corporations must be left unfettered to gather more of the life giving taxes so necessary to the survival of Toronto's culturally superior Handout-Canadians. Toronto needs schools, hospitals, homeless shelters, and needle exchange van repair facilities. And if a satrap at Sobeys can convince the satrap at the Ontario Ministry of Wealth Redistribution, then so let it be written, so let it be done.

Fenris Badwulf

MapMaster said...

There should be no doubt. Spock said it best:

The needs of the Toronto outweigh the needs of the sticks.

As a member of the Vulcan Socialist Republic, his alien inscrutability and hipness should be greeted with the same credulity as Bono's.

Honey Pot said...

I am thinking of places like the Sudan. People starving to death, fearing for their lives, no work, the land barren and unable to sustain crops. Good whack of them are farmers, organic farmers too. Big demand for organic fruits and vegetables. They are used to making a living off a handful of mustard seeds and cup of water.Not like they would need a whack of money to start up vegetables stands in the town square. If I were a Tavistockian I would be pursing immigration for info on how to make that happen.

The Mayor said...

Oh, Honey Pot. Surely you jest.

Firstly, the concept of territorially tied resettlement and immigration is verboten. Our activist judges would put a stop to that mighty quick. After the activist judges are overthrown, then we can talk.

Secondly, your organic farmers from the Sudan would much rather live on welfare. You may sample the statistics that prove this. Our organic farmers from Jamacia show a great reluctance to settle in organic farming areas and farm organically.

Let us not do the 'lets use rabbits to keep the shrubs down here in Austrailia' type of reasoning, shall we.

Pietr said...

Speaking as a one-time Vulcan, I am impressed by Map's grasp of Spockian teaching.

Honey Pot said...

Map, it surprises me you are a racist. I know more Jamacians that hold jobs than don't, that have immigrated to Canada. Know some that own their own businesses and employ other people. The immigrants I have as friends and acquaintances, would much prefer to work than live on welfare.

I remember in the 70's and 80's people whining that the aliens were coming from other countries to steal all the jobs. I chuckled to myself at that time, and do so now. I remember the so called aliens were doing the jobs that no born Canadian would actually consider or physically do for a living.

Not too many years ago I made friends with a man and woman from Iraq. They got out when Saddam was still in power, and he wasn't overly fond of them. They came here with nothing. At the time I had this idea in my head that it was important that my boys understood and appreciated hard physical labour, so I took them to the ginseng fields to work. That is where I encountered my Iraquian friends. There were people from all over the world there harvesting the ginseng. We were the only born Canadians and were looked at with curiosity. Have you ever picked ginseng or turnips Map? It is the worst son-of-whore of a job you will ever do.

Anyway, this Iraquian couple not only did that during the daytime hours, they picked worms at night to make a living. That isn't the most glamourous job in the world either.

Yeppers, everytime you go to stick an apple or turnip in your gob you can thank an immigrant for it.

Pietr said...

I had a great description of banana plantation work ready to post, but then the lousy blogspot 'hot key' got in the way and wasted it.
Too bloody clever by half this blog.

MapMaster said...

Ah, our expert system artificial intelligence censor (made possible in part by a grant from the National Science & Engineering Research Council) is working beautifully, glad to hear.

Honey Pot, I wish that I could take credit for the Mayor's post, but I cannot, for fear of a lawsuit. I think that you will find, when reading the Mayor's comments or his own very highly recommended blog, that stereotypes are typically reinforced to such extreme degrees as to rebound against both the stereotypes and the activists that thrive on them.

Pietr said...

I eat expert systems for break-commands.
Anyway, the toughest agricultural job I ever did was in the banana plantations;it was 40 C and 98% humidity, 150 metres below sea level.
I had to chop the bunches down and then cut down the boli, then load the bunches onto a trailer.
I drove them back up the mountain road to the settlement to be weighed on a weighbridge.
Very interesting?The body must adapt before you do this work; if you rush at it you will collapse.
Manyana may be a way of life for South Americans, but believe me it is not by choice.

Honey Pot said...

I thought you and the mayor were one in the same. My mistake Map. Not that a racist can't be a racist. 90% of caucasian Canadians are, 9 percent lie and say they aren't, and we other one percent sort of see it as illogical and the cause of the majority of societal ills. I did read some of his blog, the mayor's that is. I don't find it funny or informative. It is bordering on a snore fest, if you get my drift.

Honey Pot said...

Sore, so you have been an alien in a foreign country. What was that like for you? I know for me it was odd being the minority. Being white, I was a privileged minority, but it was still a mind altering experience.

The Mayor said...

Honey Pot: Thank you for your informative comments, which certainly inspire me to further and greater efforts on behalf of the downtrodden. I was unaware that 90 percent of caucasians are racist, and that the remaining ten percent are divided into nine tenths liars about their racism, and a solitary one percent that are activists.

I could not agree more with you, Honey Pot. Your one example of the valiant Iraqi couple shed alot of light upon the plight of Jamacian organic farmers. I like the way you think and I will attempt to emulate your reasoning in future.

We are having a protest against the non-existance of food banks here in Toronto on Saturday. Why don't you come on down and join the rest of us one-percenters? We are inviting Deborah Frisch, a fellow traveller.

Pietr said...

I stayed about a year, it was a good rest from Englitz, although I appreciated some things more when I got back.
Of course I didn't speak the language particularly, so it was English mostly.

Afterwards, I felt(and was treated as)a foreigner in England.
I think that is why so many people in the past left and set up shop all over the world.

Anonymous said...

It seems Honey believes that she is not a racist. I would disagree, I've read honey's comments about Caucasian Canadians and I'd say she thinks very poorly of them indeed. I personally am part of a visible minority and find that there is very little prejudice in Canada compared to other countries like parts of Africa and all of Asia. The visible minorities in those countries are treated with complete disrespect, more so if you are of mixed race like I am. I've never been denied a job, education or meal because of the colour of my skin in Canada. My children and I could not find a restaurant to eat in, in China. I think you Honey need a wider view of the world before listing yourself as part of that 1%.

Honey Pot said...

I realize that other races are ethnocentric also. They make no bones about it in China. Is it right? no, I think not. Basically it is stupid, and leads to all kinds of lovely things like war, oprression and decline of economy. You can't even speak out against it in China, or you become maggot food. Should China be envied? Who would want to live there? They don't need people, they have plenty of disposable people in China, thus human rights are a non-issue.

It is just that Canada is suppose to be a multicultural society, sort of like the Starship enterprise. All are suppose to be welcome and equal. It is in the charter somewhere. We are suppose to be enlightened, intelligent, a civilized country. I think the plan is that Canada is suppose to be one of those countries that was to lead by example. We don't have enough population, and no one wanting to breed in Canada, so it is in the best interest of the country to be welcoming to new immigrants, to sustain our economy. Best to do that by not being overtly racist.

MapMaster said...

If making sweeping critical generalizations about races makes one racist, then it seems that Honey Pot qualifies. But I am not offended. I have a sweeping generalization of my own: everyone categorizes other people and makes sweeping generalizations about them. The important thing is not to be captivated by those generalizations in the face of individual examples.

The Charter was not meant to place an onus on people, just the government. All are supposed to be welcome and equal in the eyes of the state, which is as it ought to be. But enforcing that expectation of belief and behaviour on individuals is a tyranny of social engineering. One might find it wise and amenable to abide by those principles for oneself — as principles they are commendable — but they lose all meaning if one is forced to adopt them by legislated or regulated coercion. As indeed happens…

Anonymous said...

Honey, maybe I need to pare this down to the bare bones for you.
Canadians are one of the LEAST racist countries in the world. As a whole there are less prejudices against visible minorities than anywhere I've ever visited (5 Continents, more than 40 countries, I'd have to check my passport for an accurate number). However there seems to be a huge group of Caucasian Canadians that hate themselves for being white. There are zero advantages to being a white male in today’s society, it will only be a matter of time before the lobbyists pick up their cry of prejudice and racism. I think you need to come down from your soapbox honey and look around. Canada is no longer predominately white male orientated. There are groups and organisations for everyone to enjoy and meet people who are of the same background as them. I personally belong to several clubs that has memberships limited to races and/or origin countries. I will continue to teach my children that the world is a place full of hatred for religion or race or any reason, and lets not forget, self-hatred. This is just as bad if not worse as we project this hatred on everyone we meet. I think this is you honey, you feel prejudice toward someone - the white person – I’ve read where you call them lazy, unfriendly, boring, untalented and racist - but you are white, so where does that leave you?

Honey Pot said...

Map and Annoy,I know Canada is one of the least openly racist countries in the world. That is because it is legislated, not because of the choice of the individual person. If it were up to individuals, who more than likely were taught to hate, they would prefer to hate, or look down upon other races, because it makes them feel superior. Just a taught behaviour.

I don't hate being white, I realize I am of a privileged race. Makes the everyday life struggles easier to handle. I do know that in other countries prejudice is not only condoned, it is openly taught. I really feel there wouldn't be any, if it wasn't taught. I have observed many small children. They don't seem to care, or are aware of their different ethnicities. It is very obvious that children are taught by their parents, or other adults around them, to hate other races.

Honey Pot said...

"There are zero advantages to being a white male in today's society"-Annoy

That has to be the stupidest comment you have ever made. Perhaps you should do some research and find out who the gatekeepers in Canada are? What are the chances of a black male or female becoming primeminister in Canada in the next 25 years? The gatekeepsers are all white males.

MapMaster said...

As a white male, I suffer no ill consequences beyond exclusion by government job quotas and activist and academic postmodern invectives against my kind, both of which I can safely ignore. Same goes for specious generalizations like Honey Pot makes. It is not a bad position to be in, although within my field my advantage, apart from earned merit, owes more to being able to speak English fluently than to being a white male.

Canada is one of the least openly racist countries in the world […] because it is legislated, not because of the choice of the individual person…

What palpable nonsense! It owes something, I'll grant, to indoctrination in public schools — which, by the way, comes at a far greater cost than its occasional benefits — but to suggest that, within a pluralistic country that does not legally discriminate between people, individuals cannot see for themselves the advantages of judging merit rather than skin colour, denigrates individuals entirely. How you must hate people, Honey Pot! Canada was a pluralistic welcoming society long before the Charter of Rights, and that's because the government didn't formerly coddle minorities and left people up to their own devices in a sphere of economic and cultural competition instead of a political one. People chose for themselves the advantages of not being overtly racist, and those who didn't accrued the competitive disadvantages. How do you suppose that the United States manages so well without enshrining multiculturalism and cultural equivalence in their Bill of Rights?

Honey Pot said...

Canada was a pluralistic welcoming society long before the Charter of Rights,-Map

Pluralistic my ass! It didn't even treat its homegrown citizens with equality. If it were up to people themselves as individuals, it would remain an advantage to embrace racism. There are still upwards of 20 million slaves in the world. Slave trading and owning is a prosperous business. If slavey was not legislated away, or enshrined in a charter in north America, it would still be going on.

Pietr said...

You just said it was still going on.
So is it because of nationality laws then?
Should we allow free movement of people as long as they aren't criminals?

Honey Pot said...

Sore, yeah. I have been thinking lots about that world without borders kind of thing. You should be able to plunk your ass whereever, as long as you contribute in some way. I agree that everyone has to conribute in some way as to make it work. Not exactly sure how or if it could work, but have been pondering it. The chances of that happening are slim to nothing. Certain people are still only allowed to live in certain parts of cities as it stands now. Would have to get rid of whole whack of ism's for it to work.