Thursday, April 6, 2006

GUNDON

The most popular way to settle disputes in London is to grab a gun. Yes, more gun play in London Ontario. It's becoming a daily occurence as the city is a favoured playground of those engaged in blackmarket trading stimulated by government regulations.


Lfpress:
An east London strip club — next to a library branch and a daycare — was the scene of a shooting early Thursday morning, months after a similar incident had the same neighbourhood reeling.

London Police were called to Blondie’s strip club on Dundas Street East just after 1:30 a.m. Thursday morning after several disgruntled patrons began shooting a gun.

“We kicked out a bunch of kids and they came back with a revolver,” said a Blondie’s manager who said his name was George.

[..] One man, who didn’t want to be identified, said he was at the bar when the shots were fired and described the scene as “nuts.”

“I just seen a bunch of guys fighting, and then gun shots. Everyone was hiding, ducking down. I’m getting out of here,” he said before driving off.

Blondie’s, and the adjacent Airport Hotel, are located at 2010 Dundas Street — near the East London Community Centre, the east branch of the public library and the London Y Fitness and Child Care Centre.

In October, gun violence erupted in the parking lot of the hotel and strip club before shifting to nearby Forest Lawn Avenue, populated by young families with children.

18 comments:

basil said...

From the original FP:

The manager said, “They were getting verbally offensive and we had to kick them out. Then they fired a shot inside,”

London Police Const. Amanda Pfeffer said, “Many of these incidents have been drug-related ... and we devote every resource to bringing a quick resolution to cases like this."

Other than that obvious drug being sold legally at the bar, where is the drug connection here? Why bring it up? Drugs and violence are not mutually inclusive - though criminalization and violence seem to be.

Honey Pot said...

Drugs and violence are not mutually inclusive -Bssil

You're on crack aren't you Basil? of course they are mutually inclusive. Unless you are brain dead you would be able to make the connection. You need guns to protect the drug supply you silly boy. How long do you think you would last as a drug lord without guns? Believe it or not, whoever has the biggest fucking guns wins in the drug world.

basil said...

I repeat: where is the connection established to any drug other than alcohol in this particular shooting? Assholes with guns were around long before crack.

basil said...

Honey Pot:
I am not a criminal, and so I don't get messed up with that business. Because drugs are illegal criminals sell them. Because they are at odds with law enforcement, dealers have only themselves to protect their own property (the value of which is largely inflated - and, therefore, desirable to thieves - largely due to it being illegal). Take a look at history and consider prohibition.
I haven't seen any armed guards in the LCBO lately. Perhaps you should lay off whatever it is which inhibits your ability to reason.

Honey Pot said...

Basil, what is the root of all violent crime in the quasi civilized world?..tick...tick...tick.. Yes, you are right Basil, it is drugs. Legal and illegal. Just because something is legal doesn't make it of any use, or even good.

Basil, I know you may believe people just walk into a strip joint and start shooting because they are frustrated in life, but the thinking people would realize it had something to do with drugs.

Guns and violence are just a byproduct of drugs. That is not that hard to figure out.

I am very happy to hear you don't use drugs Basil. One less gun-toting kid to worry about.

Lisa said...

Honey;

Correlation is not causation. People shoot guns, not drugs.

Honey Pot said...

Well actually people shoot drugs too. They shoot them into their veins, and when they can't hold a job coz their all fucked up, they sometimes have to resort to the basic survial instinct of killing to get their drugs. They might not really want to do it, but they don't have much choice. It is either killing someone else, or them getting very uncomfortable trying to crawl out of their own skin. I have heard it is not a pleasant feeling. When it comes to the government controlling the drugs, or the drugs controlling the people, I will be backing the government everytime.

Lisa said...

Drugs don't cause crime Honey Pot. Drug use is a "crime" because of laws declaring it to be so. The fact that some drug users are violent does not entail that all people who use "drugs" are violent. Some people drink copious amounts of alcohol or caffeine and drive a car recklessly. Should we ban alcohol and caffeine because someone might "abuse" the substance?

gm said...

Prohibition! It works! A thinly thought out, knee jerk, standard bromide not required.

Honey Pot said...

The majority of drug users can become violent, because of the urge for the drug. The ones that can't just usually off themselves, coz they haven't the energy to hunt and kill for the drug, like a vampire needs to. Drugs, legal or illegal, are the major cause of violence and crime Lisa. In your world Lisa, should children be allowed to consume alcohol, and partake in a wee bit of crack to keep them perky? Most child abuse is a direct result of some loving druggie or alkie parent Lisa. In your world Lisa, no one should be responsible or accountable to anyone...but someone got to look after the kids Lisa.

Lisa said...

HP;

In my world, people are directly responsible for their choices because they are not "legally" permitted to pass the costs off onto the collective.

Pietr said...

Cigarette-related violence.
It's a hell of a thing.
At least, it soon will be.

gm said...

Support for the local mafia, hells angels and corrupt cops is what prohibition is all about. Reefer madness is not real but prohibition madness is really insane.

Honey Pot said...

Look at that.... 8 guys offed outside of London. I doubt if that had anything do to with a drug deal gone bad. Gonna be a bunch of starving zombies in London for the next few days. Lock your doors folks.

gm said...

Can anyone say Biker gang war? Oh sure, the root cause is drug prohibition but it makes one fuzzy knowing that we put druggies in jail and finance the mafia and bikers.> sarcasm

Honey Pot said...

You have to draw the line somewhere. Crack is just such a dirty drug, meth too. I know you are thinking the users should know better, no one to blame but themselves. It takes about three weeks to get a kid hooked on either of these drugs. Only thing wrong with any form of drug, legal or illegal, their main target is children. Eight less drug dealers on the streets, I say bravo.

Pietr said...

Glad you do draw the line.
I'd hate to think you were reduced to using that crap.
Oh.
I see.
You mean, you want to draw the line for everybody else?
What, are they all your roomies or something?
Ever been threatened with an eight inch blade for watching somebody take hash?
That was only because he was afraid I'd report him.
Because people like you drew a line.
Drugs aren't the cause.
You are.

Honey Pot said...

Are you sure it was because of that? I get the feeling that people would just want to off you, because you are you. I don't think they have the right to, but I could understand the why.

Drugs, legal and illegal are the cause of the majority of crimes Sorehead. People tend to lose their inhibitions and moral compass, when they are on a substance. They get in cars and kill people, shoot or knife people, they beat their spouses and children. Lots of people in jail, mostly males I might add, that will spend a spell there because of drugs.