Thursday, June 23, 2005

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In a 5-4 decision, the court upheld the ability of New London, Conn., to seize people's homes to make way for an office, residential and retail complex supporting a new $300 million research facility of the Pfizer pharmaceutical company. The city had argued that the project served a public use within the meaning of the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution because it would increase tax revenues, create jobs and improve the local economy.
pikes....
"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail, its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England may not enter; all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement."

-- William Pitt, 1763

12 comments:

Kyla said...

The only solution is a Federal Law protecting private property owner's rights.

The Supreme Court can only interpret laws. If a new law is put forth, they will have to enforce it.

Americans: contact your congressional representatives today!

Mike said...

Hopefully this is nullified somehow. It's too bad that more laws may have to be passed to settle whether it's a good idea to arbitrarily seize people's houses to benefit particular businesses and the tax base.

Lisa said...

*sob* - we're screwed as we've known for a good while now. What can be done? Of what use can the underground woman be?

MapMaster said...

Funny how I've never heard that suggestion from any of our parties here in Canada. I wonder whether any such law would pass the constitutional test if challenged — I'm guessing it would, because while our constitution neither recognizes the sovereignty of property, it doesn't explicitly exclude it from protection either, I don't think. But our particular Canadian problem is that our constitution is very flexible when it comes to the ascendancy of individual rights over vaguely defined collective rights or vice versa. Of course, any law in Canada would contain exemptions for equally arbitrary eminent domain uses — and this is even happening in the US where I understand private property rights are protected in the Consitution. So a federal law may provide a discursive force to inure our culture, its purpose will as easily be eroded as other cultural and legal sensibilities. No solution that is anything more than temporary will be found through legislation — vigilance on the part of the citizens will always be required.

Just to be annoying, would such a law in Canada be under federal, provincial or municipal jurisdiction? Not that it particularly matters when protection of artificial collective rights is at stake.

Pietr said...

Pitt the Elder or Pitt the Younger-that was a long time ago.
Since the forties we had an orgy of Compulsory Purchase,thanks to the precedent set by Churchill and enthusiastically taken up by Attlee the Human Flea,right through to Wilson-who-wouldn't-stay-behind-the-garden-fence and any recent government.
I mean,Rights are so inconvenient.

Kyla said...

If the court expanded "Eminent Domain," which is what I think happened, then a constitutional amendment is needed to protect property rights.

This is far more important than trying to float an anti-gay marriage amendment.

There is no appeal beyond the supreme court.

Meaghan Champion said...

Kyla....

Don't you see?

All that happened is that the mask has slipped a little more. CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPS???? SIGN A PETITION? And WHAT?

WHAT?

I've been watching the response to all this... just fascinated by Libertarians. Who still think there is some way to "vote" yourselves out of this.

I saw somebody, in the comments section talking about how "now is the time to make sure the politicians don't abuse this power"

AS IF....

AS IF!!!!!!!

What the HELL do you think this whole thing is... stealing peoples property/homes so that cronies of city governments can enrich themselves and their friends and give kickbacks to CITY officials.

The WHOLE THING IS AN ABUSE OF POWER
AND NOW... NOW... IT HAS BEEN INSTIUTIONALIZED!

NOW IT IS THE LAW!!!!
They have MADE it ILLEGAL to stop them. They have simply passed a fiction, a fake on reality and declared it to be truth.

And you.... You idiot... you say people's recourse is to contact congress?

What the HELL do you think Congress is going to do about it?

Congress are the people who passed the Asset Forfeiture Laws... and enriched themselves and their police forces by institutionalizing THAT kind of predation...

Do you think they are going to give a crap now?

Anybody who doesn't get it... watching this action going down... is an abject moron.

I mean that.

You keep voting and voting and voting.... and you keep paying taxes to keep these MONSTERS in ca-ching! These assholes who will dispense with you, and your property at their slightest whim...

America is dead.

This latest retard-fest is simply a form of necrophilia on the Corpse of the Ideals of the founding of the Republic.

But by all means... write a letter.
Sign a petition.
Keep voting.
Keep paying them taxes.

Right up to the moment you end up on the cattle cars to Kolyma

Meaghan Champion said...

By the way... if anybody wants to translate this in a way to protect themselves...This is how the economics of this is going to play out.

Get out of land/property development in any place close to a city.

Sell your homes... invest in low-cost rental unit housing.

Don't build anything nice, pretty and don't bother trying to improve the neighborbood. The more your collective "property values" go up... the more likely you will be targetted for this predation.

I give it 1-2 years before house property values in the US start to rapidly decline.

The impact on the economy... from this ruling is going to be nightmarishly staggering in scope and size.

America has just turned the entire country into ONE BIG INDIAN RESERVE

Pietr said...

Kyla has a valid point.
When you challenge these people repeatedly with open argument,they can do the following:
Ignore you.But that won't work unless they sew up the internet as well as every other medium.
Argue.
They will lose.
Remove you.
Then,and ONLY THEN,is there any recourse to action.

The stage we are in(all over the world)is the stage whereby they attempt ignorance.
Consequently the votes are falling every time.
The time will come when the popular vote is outnumbered by the popular non-vote,and I mean the totals,not just one party.
They realise this and are starting to squirm.
The alternatives are for them to give up or declare a junta.

plastic buddha said...

Life is suffering. Give up materialism or prepare to die for it.

Lisa said...

Life is consumption. According to which standard do we dictate the conditions of allowable consumption? Plastic bureaucrats will not save the day - they just want your fork to eat your food.

gm said...

Perhaps, the sky did fall...